With President Obama calling for action to reduce gun violence, here's a pretty big clue about where things are currently headed:

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin — who has an “A” rating from the NRA and is a lifetime member of the pro-gun rights group — said Monday that it was time to “move beyond rhetoric” on gun control.

“I just came with my family from deer hunting,” Manchin said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I’ve never had more than three shells in a clip. Sometimes you don’t get more than one shot anyway at a deer. It’s common sense. It’s time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common sense discussion and move in a reasonable way.”

Yeah, this is the same Joe Manchin who shot a copy of cap and trade legislation with a rifle during his first senate campaign. And now he's talking about gun control. Now, he's not gotten to the point of saying what he'd actually support. And he also says he wants the NRA to be part of the discussion. But at least rhetorically, even Joe freaking Manchin is now for gun control.